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I am looking for a new food for my Leilah, a 3 year old, 35 lb Vizsla/beagle
mix with previous dandruff problems, previous colitis problems, luxated
patellas, no allergies, and a high metabolism. Keeping this
stuff straight is hard, so I made this page (I happen to LOVE netscape
composer for a lot of things). I'm a consumer with some basic canine nutritional
knowledge, not a nutritionist. The ideal is based on past experience as
to what works and what doesn't for her. This is what I am looking at, for
MY dog. I don't even cook for myself, so I'm not going have the patience
and time to do a BARF diet for her. What I choose for Leilah is probably
is
not what YOUR dog needs, I only want to show my format here for
comparing foods, so you can see it and hopefully find a good food for your
dog too.
Since this is for me to do my own shopping, I didn't make it to be pretty, and it's my opinions, knowledge, or lack of, for better or worse. |
Prospective dog foods for Leilah
Ideal:
on a 10% moisture kibble: protein under 25% best about 22-23%,
fat between 14-16% + or - 1 or 2% , poultry as main protein, lamb ok, more
rice than corn, some corn ok, some omega acids, fiber at least 3%
higher is better. Glucosamine a plus. mail order a negative. she doesn't
need vit c like copper does, and it's in the glucosamine supplement anyway,
so don't need it in the food. Kibble only, no canned.
contenders:
naturapet | flint river | canidae | wysong |
Innova dry | Premium Kibble Puppy and Dog | maintenance formula | synorgon |
what she's on now. after 2 months, gaining weight free fed, average less than 1 c average a day (.9). coat almost greasy feeling, and a bit harsher too. Harsher is ok, it feels more like a vizsla coat now than when on eukanuba, but greasy not ok. wonder if caused by all the fish. it's got more omega than most too.l She's using the food, has less stool, but I don't like what she's doing with the food she's absorbing. Worried her colitis might be returning too, don't have the granola fiber supplement figured right yet. | fat low, fiber as fed low, don't know about wheat as main cereal (2x in top 6, 3X total), mail order | white rice? is that good? Less omega 6 than the innova, might make her coat less greasy. Wouldn't mind the protein down a point or two. Not bad...but it's mail order maybe? or have I seen it at collar and leash? | low fat, high moisture makes fat even lower, what's with all this dried fermentaion stuff. black pepper? salt? site says corn in their other foods is "hypoallergenic" and the salt is "special" salt not just added sodium. wierd. having an online feud with innova apparently, kinda funny. Newfie dug up a list of places to buy it, all 5 places near here I won't patronize because they sell pups. so, it would have to be mail order. |
Crude Protein (minimum) 24.0%
Crude Fat (minimum) 14.0% Crude Fiber (maximum) 3.0% Moisture (maximum) 10.0% Vitamin E (minimum) 200 IU/cup Vitamin C (minimum) 500 mg/cup Fatty Acids (Omega 6) (minimum) 4.25% Fatty Acids (Omega 3) (minimum) 0.60% Total Microorganisms (minimum) 900 million CFU/lb |
Guaranteed Average Analysis "As Fed"
Crude Protein (Min.) 23.0% 23.5 % Crude Fat (Min.) 12.0% 12.3 % Crude Fiber (Max.) 4.0% 2.25 % Moisture (Max.) 10.0% 8.8 % Caloric Density (KCAL/Lb.) 1780 Caloric Density (KCAL/Cup) 413 Grams/Cup 113 |
Crude Protein - (Minimum) 24 %
Crude Fat - (Minimum) 14.5 % Crude Fiber - (Maximum) 4 % Moisture - (Maximum) 10 % Omega-6 Fatty Acids - (Minimum) 3.20 % Omega-3 Fatty Acids - (Minimum) .60 % Linoleic Acid - (Minimum) 3.70 % Vitamin E - (Minimum) 200 IU/KG ME (kcal/lb) 1865 - ME ( kcal/cup) 466.25 Amylase (From Aspergillus Niger) - MIN. 950 BAU/ lb Xylanase (From Aspergillus Oryzae) - MIN. 136 XU/ lb |
ANALYSIS: Protein 24%, Fat 12%, Fiber 4.5%, Moisture 12% |
Turkey
Chicken Apples Garlic Potatoes Alfalfa Sprouts Carrots Cottage Cheese Milk Eggs In addition to these fresh ingredients, Innova contains: Whole Ground Barley
Sunflower & Fish Oil Chicken Fat
Chicken Meal
Lactobacillus Acidophilus
Vitamins E, C & A (Beta-Carotene)
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INGREDIENTS: Chicken Meal, Wheat Flour, Ground Rice,
Lamb Meal,
Poultry Fat (Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Ascorbic Acid), Ground Wheat, Dried Whole Egg, Lecithin, Fish Meal, Brewers Dried Yeast, Wheat Germ Meal, Dried Kelp, Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Ferrous Sulfate, DL-Alpha Tocopherol Acetate (Source of Vitamin E), Zinc Oxide, Selenium Supplement, Manganous Oxide, Riboflavin Supplement (Vitamin B2), Copper and Colbolt, Niacin, Ascorbic Acid (Source of Vitamin C), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, D-Biotin Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Calcium Iodate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement. |
CHICKEN MEAL, TURKEY MEAL, BROWN RICE, WHITE RICE, LAMB
MEAL, CHICKEN
FAT, ( PRESERVED WITH MIXED TOCOPHEROLS AND ASORBIC ACID ,VIT.E & C ), FISH MEAL, FLAX SEED, DEHYDRATED ALFALFA MEAL ,SUNFLOWER OIL , LECITHIN , BREWERS YEAST , NATURAL FLAVORS, MONOSODIUM PHOSPHATE , CHOLINE, LINOLEIC ACID, ROSEMARY EXTRACT, SAGE EXTRACT , FERROUS SULFATE , DL - ALPHA TOCOPHEROL (SOURCE OF VITAMIN E) ZINC OXIDE, SODIUM SELENITE, MANGANOUS OXIDE, RIBOFLAVIN SUPPLEMENT ( SOURCE OF B2), YEAST CULTURE, DRIED ASPERGILLUS NIGER FERMENTATION EXTRACT, DRIED ASPERGILLUS ORYZAE FERMENTATION EXTRACT, DRIED LACTOBACILLUS ACIDIPHILUS FERMENTATION PRODUCT, DRIED STREPTOCOCCUS FAECIUM FERMENTATION PRODUCT, ZINC AMINO ACID CHELATE, MANGANESE AMINO ACID CHELATE, COPPER AMINO ACID CHELATE, COBALT AMINO ACID CHELATE, IRON AMINO ACID CHELATE, NIACIN, VITAMIN B12 SUPPLEMENT, VITAMIN A SUPPLEMENT, CALCIUM PANTOTHENATE , D-BIOTIN SUPPLEMENT, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE (VITAMIN B6) , CALCIUM , IODATE, THIAMINE MONONITRATE , FOLIC ACID , PAPAIN , BACILLUS SUBTILI , ASPERGILLUS NIGER , YUCCA SCHIDIGERA EXTRACT. |
Chicken, Ground Brown Rice, Ground Flax Seeds, Poultry
Fat, Salt.
--- Yeast Culture, Lecithin, Natural Extractives of Cloves, Sage, and Rosemary, Dried Kelp, Garlic, Black Pepper, Artichoke, Dried Bacillus subtilis Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus oryzae Fermentation Product, Dried Entercococcus faecium Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus casei Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus lactis Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus niger Fermentation Product, Ascorbic Acid, Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Manganese Proteinate, Calcium Pantothenate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Copper Proteinate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin A Acetate, Folic Acid, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement. |
iams and euk: I'm mad at them, too much corn - makes her crap a lot, she apparently not using a lot of it
nature's recipe: lots of coat type fats and oils - too many?, proteins on high side, chicken fat or other fat pretty high up on lists
solid gold: fat too low all types
diamond: nutro nuggets, too much corn, protein and fat too low. Premium edge and professional: protein too high, chicken fat too high on list
mother hubbard wellness: no real info on site, no analysis
nutro natural choice: protein and fat too low. max: protein too high
sensible choice: protein too high, wierd ingredients: "spray dried chicken liver"??? salt?? what is "natural flavor"? "powdered cellulose" and it has a somewhat low fiber content? sounds messed with more than necessary.
phd: protein too high. diamotaceous earth?? it goes in gardens, not dogs, doesn't it?
precise: no omegas, too much corn
Balanced Diet: per a good friend, mail order HELL
Best in show: Their info not on their site, but got info from TR
Chicken, chicken meal, Barley, brown rice, millet, white rice,
herring meal chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherois and
ascorbic acid) Whole sweat potatoes, oat hulls, sunflower oil,
cheddar cheese, flaxseed, whole carrots, whole apples, spirulina,
alfalfa sprouts, whole egg, potassium chloride, monosodium phosphate,
chicory root extract, whole garlic clove, parsley, salt,
probiotics (dried B. Licheniformis Fermentation product, dried
l. Acidophilus fermentiation product dried b. subtilis fermentation
product, dried l. lactis fermentation product, Vitamin A. D3,
E, B12 supplements, Choline Chloride, NIacin, Panthenic acid,
ascorbic acid, Riboflavin, Thiamin Mononitrate, pyrodsoxine
hydrocholoride, folic acid, menadione sodium, sodium bisulfate
(source of vitamin K. activity) Biotin, Zinc Oxide, Iron Carbonate,
Magnanous Oxide, Sorbic Acide, Sodium Selenite
Guaranteed Analysis: crude Protein 25.0% Curde Fat 15.0% crude Fiber 3.0% Moisture 10.0%
very much like Innova, too much oil. Lady at centinela feed wonders if the cottage cheese in the innova is causing the weight gain too, so could cheddar?. I don't think this will solve what I don't like about innova, and it's mail order.